<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2589718432135127879</id><updated>2012-02-16T02:21:19.549-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Trust Wills Estate Probate Conservator Law CA NV</title><subtitle type='html'></subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://busselaw.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2589718432135127879/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://busselaw.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Jim Busse</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12676355235102974342</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-oGAHUA_rJJ4/TcDiulVkvXI/AAAAAAAAAAM/muah2mQpXSA/s220/me.bmp.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>1</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2589718432135127879.post-5443599588870567298</id><published>2011-05-03T22:44:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-05-03T22:44:47.293-07:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>In this Post:&lt;br /&gt;Planning ...................... &lt;b&gt;Asset Protection for the Wary.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;_______________________________________________________________________ &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;Our law firm focuses on Estate and Life Planning for those who wish to preserve their assets for their family. By doing Probate work for our clients we have established Estate Planning methods that are court tested. Because the goal of every person is to have peace of mind their wishes will be carried out, our integrated approach constantly tests the effectiveness of your Estate Plan with actual California and Nevada Cases. We are particularly involved in Medicaid and Medi-Cal Estate planning. We create Special Needs Trusts and Estate Plans to ensure our clients meet the eligibility requirements, lower their share the cost expense, and reduce or eliminate the potential recovery by the State. Our law firm integrates low cost Probate with coordinated Estate Planning documents to significantly reduce the impact of the State claim for nursing home care.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;This post is available as a newsletter at &lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.jabusse,com/"&gt;http://www.jabusse,com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/u&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;Protecting your home from Creditors (FLP’s).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;FLP is a slang term. There is no statute that uses Family Limited Partnership, nor does the Internal Revenue Code use it. What “Family Limited Partnership” refers to is a limited partnership formed to hold the family business or investments, with the idea that the parents will make gifts of their limited partnership interests to their children. Since the Parents are often Limited Partners they have some immunity from lawsuits since the Limited Partnership assets are essentially zero. Also, because the limited partnership interests are not liquid, they should be subject to substantial discounts for federal gift and estate tax planning purposes. Family Limited Partnerships also have some attraction as asset protection vehicles, primarily because the limited partnership interests may be subject to “charging order protection” in some states. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;A charging order is an order that allows a person who wins a lawsuit against the partnership to receive the dividends paid to the partners or stockholders of that business first.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Of course the savvy FLP general partner stops paying dividends after the judgment and reinvests them in the business.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The Charging Order holder, is still assessed&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;the “Business profit” and has to pay the tax on money he or she did not receive (kind of like the reinvested dividends in your mutual fund).&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Something to think about if you sue a FLP or LLC, or Small Family Corporation. You might win then lose a lot of money because of the charging order.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Unfortunately, FLPs are marketed by numerous promoters who market one-size-fits-all cookie-cutter FLP structures and even sometimes also sell kits allowing clients to engage in do-it-yourself FLP planning.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I call this selling a yugo to your ego.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;FLPs are almost never correctly utilized. The following brief list is some of the ways creditors and the IRS has BROKEN Family Limited Partnerships. and allowed the creditor or IRS to attach the personal assets of the FLP creator. There are more ways:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;Failure to Fund the FLP- It has to have funds &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;Failure to Maintain the FLP- Failure to Follow Formalities -&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;It needs to be managed with real records.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;Non-Business Assets or Activities – There must be a real business activity for the FLP. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;Parent as General Partner –if the Parent gets sued, the creditor could probably persuade the court to enter an order compelling the Parent to make a distribution to the Parent’s LP interest, thus totally subverting the charging order protection. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;Parent as both General Partner and only Limited Partner – The parent owns the whole thing so the court says “no protection.”&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;Parent’s Living Trust as the GP Same as above. A living trust equals the individual.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;Formation in the wrong State – Some jurisdictions do not limit the creditor’s remedy to a charging order.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;Holding Assets in wrong State – The state where the assets are may ignore the FLP.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;Failure to Diversify – All eggs in one basket.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;Combined with Foreign Asset Protection Trust – This common “Platter” approach is easily recognized and easily broken.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;Fraudulent Transfer – Move assets after you know you are going to be sued and the court will un-move them. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;Failure to Make Gifts of the LP Interests – If you don’t gift the assets you don’t get the tax advantage..&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;Failure to Obtain Appraisals – since the funding of the FLP is evaluated on the date made you must have good records. Your notion of the value is not enough. You need to get it appraised.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;Excessive Discount – Discounts of more than 15% get IRS attention. Discounts of over 20% are mostly sales gimmicks.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;Gifting Limited Partnership Interests Directly to Children – Direct gifts are easily attached by creditors. Gifting to a trust with Medicaid and spendthrift clauses limits the creditor’s ability to get the child’s money.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;----------------------------------------------------------&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;FLP’s have a place in one’s estate plan. As with other estate planning, I think it best to partner with a competent attorney or attorney’s to properly establish and manage your FLP.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;Here are some FLP guidelines/, They are not exhaustive.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;Don't Overuse -- The Family Limited Partnership is just one of many available techniques. Avoid promoters who will try to stick nearly everything into the FLP.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;Diversify – It is better to have several smaller FLPs than to have one oversized one. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;Treat the FLP as a Business Entity not a Family Trust – An FLP is a business, A family Trust is a trust. If the FLP does not have a business purpose, a court will render the FLP a sham and allow the creditor to attach the personal assets without the charging order.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;Have a Good Operating Agreement -- The agreement should cover what happens when sued.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;Have Trusts Own the Children’s LP Interests The children’s trust must have spendthrift clauses and absolute discretion given to the trustee. The Trustee should not be the beneficiary (except maybe in &lt;state w:st="on"&gt;Alaska&lt;/state&gt; and &lt;state w:st="on"&gt;&lt;place w:st="on"&gt;Nevada&lt;/place&gt;&lt;/state&gt;), the trust must not be revocable, and not allow for mandatory distributions for the general welfare (education, health, etc) of the beneficiary. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;Maximize Transfers – Transfer assets immediately and make annual gifts to children without fail.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;Avoid the Offshore Urge – unless you want to be audited.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;Avoid Kits and Promoters – If you have enough in assets to justify having an FLP, then you should spend the time to go to an attorney in who has experience in structuring these entities the right way. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The courts are full of people who found out that their FLP didn’t work. Some clients have come in after being sued and getting a judgment against them personally upset that their “on-Line” FLP didn’t protect them.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;One spent over $150,000 in legal fees to find out the insurance didn’t pay and the FLP didn’t work.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;That person thought he was knowledgeable because he had a book and saw a program on PBS. Of course he didn’t read the 150 or so court cases mostly dissolving FLP’s.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;So;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;This newsletter is deliberately a bit vague. The odds are you now know that FLP’s are serious business with serious consequences if done and run improperly.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;They can and do result in significant tax advantages for those who do them correctly, but I don’t think many do them correctly on their own.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The next newsletter will review Family Foreign Grantor Trusts as asset protection strategies.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;The Law Offices of James A. 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